Saturday, August 3, 2013

The Shia: A beacon of reason, humanism, courage and struggle in the sea of Islam





The above is the extraction of debate participated by Ayad Jamal Aldin, an Iraqi Shia cleric. In the debate, Ayad Jamal Aldin argue for a separation of religion and state. Below are summaries of his points.

State should be neutral to all religious institution and should only be charged of provisioning service even to the night club. 
Hypocrite emerged in theocracy even under Prophet Muhammad himself. Koran has an entire Surah titled "Al-Munafiqun" (The Hypocrites) to describe hypocrite in Medina during the prophet Muhammad 's rule, not to mention rule by others. 
The non separation of religion and state produces people with split personality. Hypocrisy is not a reaction to religion but to ideological state. Rulers intimidate people with religion if they want to control the people. 
All the prophets not only Prophet Muhammad were sent to form human beings, not to construct buildings. 
The Sharia is a personal commitment only. The state should implements civic law, a man-made law and not the one conveyed by Allah. 
The notion of civic law is based on equality in duties and rights, but under rule of Islam, Muslims and non-Muslims are not equal. The late regime of Taliban was a pure Sunni Islamic rule. The Shia rule of jurisprudence claims to be substituting the Prophet Muhammad (Iran theocracy). They claimed to be "representing Allah upon the Earth", more or less. 
Whoever want Sharia should turn to Taliban government, to Ayatollah government in Iran. Or he should select way the Western, the Crusaders, the infidel regime which create New Zealand and Canada for instance, as well as human rights and notion of liberties. These human rights do not exist in Islam (states). 
The combination of Koran and sword is dangerous. It is more dangerous than nuclear technology. Today people are being exiled on religious and sectarian grounds. The Christians, Sabians were exiled. The peaceful Yazadis were attacked. The deportation is done in the name of Allah. We were plagued by Emirs who slaughter while praising Allah, who deport while praising Allah, who burning down houses while praising Allah.  
Is it what Prophet Muhammd was sent for? Was he sent to enslave people? The union of Ataturk and Rumi Sufism is the only hope for survival of Muslims as a nation, and for the survival of human being within Muslim.

The Shia is a vibrant religion committed to support democracy and human rights. The Iranian theocracy is condemned by the highest Shia authority as heretic. In comparison, there are many in Sunni Islam advocating the return of Caliphate and declaring themselves Emir.

The Shia advocate a separation of religion and state, and Ayad Jamal Aldin's view represent not only himself, but a fair lot of Shia people. Shia hates imposing Sharia on everyone, but rather, Sharia should be a source (among others) of the law of the land.

Democracy works in Shia Iraq but failed in all Sunni Arabic states

Since the downfall of Saddam Hussein, Iraq which has a Shia majority is enjoying fair and free elections. There are one on 2005 and one on 2010. Due to the hard work and collective goodness of Shia Arabs, democracy is taking root without much irregularities. The transition of Shia Iraq from millennium of totalitarianism to democracy, till date 8 years is remarkable.

In contrast, all Arabic Sunni states are either still under dictator, or anarchy. Egypt stands a chance but Sunni Islam does not have Shia's strong emphasis of civics law as well as separation of state and religion. Egypt's democracy failed in a little more than one year.

Iraq was bombed into heap by USA and under years of civil war. There are many sectarian hate. Yet Iraq is now under democracy. There is no civil war in Egypt and democracy failed. The collective conscious and their sectarian intolerance is responsible for failing of Egypt.


Malaysia is going to fail if she continues Islamization

While Shia strives to modernize their country, Malaysia who has a majority Malay Muslim population has slide back from a secular state to an Islamic state. Malaysia can forget about being a strong, advance and modern nation, respecting human rights and promoting equality, unless she repent her ways. While Iraq enjoys fair and free elections, Malaysia elections are increasingly rigged.

Malaysia's ex premier Mahathir declared Malaysia is an Islamic state. Chinese can be accused racism for anything. In 2013 elections, Chinese were called racist even though Chinese voted for the coalition which includes the PAS.

In comparison, Iraq will rise from ashes and show everyone a country with Muslim majority can be good in democracy and human rights -- thanks to the Shia.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Anak Babi.
Don't need you to write about Islam, you pig eater

Veritas said...

Anak Babi.
Don't need you to write about Islam, you pig eater.


Sad. Islam religion is now openly discuss in a lot of TV channels in middle east.

The Muslim here seems to outdo Middle East in intolerant in many ways. Instead of debating on my writings, Malay here use racial slur.

Anonymous said...

Veritas is a slut

Anonymous said...

Veritas anak babi. Balik PRC.

Anonymous said...

VERITAS WE HAVE NOW EXPOSED WHO U REALLY ARE!!!
U ARE A FOREIGN AGENT WHO LIKES TO DESTROY A PEACEFUL AND HARMORY NATIONS.YOU HAVE SHOW YOUR TRUE COLOUR.YOU HAVE CRISTISE SO MANY RACES AND RELIGIONS .NOW WE KNOW YOUR EVIL SIDES.I URGED EVERY READERS READING THIS TO REPORT THIS WEBSITE TO THE POLICE AS IT INCITES RACIAL HATRED AND PROMOTE VIOLENCE CLASHES BETWEEN RACES.PLEASE EVERYONE TO REPORT VERITAS TO THE POLICE AS HE LOVES TO INCITES RACIAL DISHARMONY AMONG THE RACES IN SINGAPORE.THE MORE OF YOU REPORT IT TO THE POLICE THEN THEY WILL TAKE ACTION AGAINST THIS EVIL VERITAS.

Anonymous said...

Isn't Veritas a woman? even her name Veritas is the same as the Roman goddess of truth ,unless "he" is transvestite.

Syahmi Majesty said...

veritas, actually if you do some extensive readings, or maybe you can take clues from some crazy conspiracy theories, even though you will never believe em. there are proofs, (even the conspirator is not muslim himself) that shia is the creation of the elit to try to penetrate and divide islam from the day before islam itself. crazy? well, i tell you, judaism corrupted, christianity corrupted, islam? now the seed has grown and you can see;
- islam by general has always been labeled as trouble and all bad, but look at how they make shia looks better and acceptable, compared to sunni. what's wrong with non-democracy anyway? something might work for you, but not for someone else.

i have many friends from middle east, they have mixed reactions. i have all kind of friends from there; sunni, shia, christians, etc. so, what i can tell you, belief or religion doesnt really matter, or has any significant impact in this case. it's up to the people themselves. its very long for me to type all my experience and conversations with these fellows but, you just cant decide/conclude what's best for them, on your laptop, in the comfort of your air-conditioned bedroom. you can give theory but, you're just one in a million..

hope you'll dig more understandings of Islam before you think to write more of it. you'll confuse people

Syahmi Majesty said...



oh, and your thoughts on recent malaysian general election..- please oh god, you have to worry about your country more. i dont mean any offence, nor im trying to piss you off. but hey, it's politic. same like yours, same mine, same everywhere. even as malaysian, we are puzzled somehow.. you see, this is democracy, even a thief can be a prime minister. think about that. what would happen if malaysia is under sharia law? will politician dare to cheat, or corrupt? i dont want to start a discussion on how bad islamization to the civilization, or nation's development, whatever. you can study about how European finally got a glimpse of light for them to get out of the dark ages. wasnt it during the ruling time of islamic empires where science, mathematic has flourished? ?

you see, islam encourages knowledge flourishments. if anything that has to do with the problem, its with the people, not the religion.

ok, one more last thing, think about this- why would the malysian chinese voted the backward and terror-potential islamic party in malysia? was it strange enough? why?

Veritas said...

UMNO politicians are westernized and secular, but they dole out Islam to you guys.

Veritas said...

Malaysian Malay now monopolized the word "Allah" and they still can self-victimize and accuse Chinese of racism.

Dono what logic is that.

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Syahmi Majesty said...

"UMNO politicians are westernized and secular, but they dole out Islam to you guys"

-pffft, we know that. who said they are fighting for islam? my question was; why would the malaysian chinese vote the islamic party (sounds fishy?) whereas they can vote for the secular and westernized umno in this recent general election. something's up for these chinese?

"Malaysian Malay now monopolized the word "Allah" and they still can self-victimize and accuse Chinese of racism.

Dono what logic is that."

-because word Allah is only used by muslim IN MALAYSIA. its a known fact for thousands of years. only christian arabs or indons used sparingly, but i think, they prefer jesus than anything else. so, why would suddenly these chinese christians in malaysia want to use "ALLAH' to call their god? we know that it wont be a crime, its legit, its aceptable or whatever. the question is, WHY NOW?

Syahmi Majesty said...

one thing about malaysia, is that we already tired, and know exactly these lame 'chinese psycho tricks'. they threw some racist cards, and they try to hide their hands, or they'll defend their act to death. they'll try to turn, turn, twist, twist, using all legal, historical research, geographic evident (if needed to) to support/ defend their fuckery. they intended something, they think they're very slick and clever. lucky for us, we have the reasonable rulers who can smell these dogshit and easily break their plans. i bet you, we can wait and see, they will try to bring up the ALLAH issue again, just to create turmoil, out of nothing. this is the problem with chinese, and they wont stop

Veritas said...

DAP in PAS coalition.

All Christian Arab Bible and Indon use Allah.

Probably now only Malaysia accuse Chinese racism so much. Elsewhere in the whole world, Chinese is model citizen, acing exam and working hard, not committing any crime.

As I said. Malaysia Malay forever say everyone must be "sensitive" to them.

Not even Iran ban Allah against Christian. malaysia malay now broke world record and yet they still have face to accuse the most model world citizen racist.

Syahmi Majesty said...

"DAP in PAS coalition"

-why would malaysian chinese (dap) want to co-operate and create problem with something that'll never work, that'll be a clash of ideology and interest in the future? is malaysian chinese are so desperate for power? i believe you and the rest of the chinese hate malay muslims so much, so it doesnt seem fit for both of them to work together. it's pure hypocrisy dont you think?

yes arab christian and indons use Allah. but not malaysian chinese christians. talk about being sensitive, i think its the common practise that you must alert of your surroundings. what's wrong in respecting majorities? even if the world has lost its value to modernity, at least in malaysia we try to preserve the harmony, well, let's just keep something taboo you know. people will talk, amongst them, or not publicly, like here in internet maybe. you know chinese are the most fake-full beings. they be nice to you one minute, then they talk bad about you as soon as you turn your head. thanks to my fellow gf who can understand chinese. malay dont get the opportunity to bash them quite often, because malaysian chinese can understand malay, and maybe we dont really have a hidden agenda or something. coz this is our land, we had no worries. (until now)

of course iran wont ban the word allah from christians. why would they care? shia itself is a branch of judeo-christianity, at least like i said, it was created by 'elites' to control and divide islam from within. you can give example of saudi arabia. a total islamic and holy state, they dont ban word Allah from christians. in malaysia, it's more to cultural adaptation, toleration, and yes; sensitivity. where i supposed we all should know the border, stay away from taboos just to preserve the peace. and the majorities are all not that bad. for the minority, i think chinese malaysia enjoy most of the priviledge and opportunity compared to other countries in the world. i dont understand why are so many complaints from them.

Veritas said...

If Chinese no cooperate with malaysian muslim, they will accuse us racist.

These people are feminist style self-victimizer. Chinese are so good that we are represented in UMNO and opposition camp.

Just malaysian muslim want people to be sensitive. Chinese Hui muslim cannot even be bothered about many of those "sensitive issue". Malaysian muslim seems to get hurt easily.

Anyone may grumble upon perceived injustice and its surprise you take issue on this. Chinese just grumble. But Muslim in Europe and Thailand...etc self-victimze themselves and kill innocent people because they think they get discriminated.

You have your own opinion of Shia. Anyway Shia has more guts than Sunni today. They got balls to stand up against USA and Israel.

Veritas said...

Is there conspiracy that someone created hanafi, hanbali, wahabi, shafi, maliki, alawi, ismali, jafari, zaidi, alevi, sufi to divide Muslim?

So many wor.

Veritas said...

Indon Christian use Allah Malaysia cannot? And malaysian malay still talk so much.

malaysia is aparthied. You want to compare with SG or the west? Thats y not only Chinese, Malaysia Malay have problem with all minorities. Malaysian Malay are too dumb or too self-victimize not to see all their minorities including Iban and Kadazan of greater Malay race hate them.

China only have problem with 2 out of 56 tribes. Admit Malaysian Malay are racist. This is the first step to wisdom and out of stupidity.

Syahmi Majesty said...

"If Chinese no cooperate with malaysian muslim, they will accuse us racist."

-that is a common kiasu shown by chinese. always want people to look high upon them, even while they're cheating. in this case the chinese are failing miserably, everyone including my dog knows they have agenda. chinese hate malay muslim so much, they wish malaysia will become like china, or at least singapore, but unfortunately it wont. thats why south asian chinese hate malay and islam. its no surprise. as i said, most malaysian have the stand that, if you dont like it here, you can always go. i think we dont tolerate anything here in malaysia. malay, indian, chinese, if anyone are causing or try to create problem, we will wipe em off. thats the case with so many cults, so shia is no exception. every country in the world has their own defense mechanism, dont let me start on china, they even ban internet or fb (wtf) so your whining is useless. stop barking at the hill..

seems like you've confused something with something else. let me tell you, sect is different. hanafi, hambali,shafie, maliki are sects. they are the versions of the leader or the imam. and they dont contradict each other. only slight difference in the way you pray, thats all. none of em are messing with the islamic fundamental or promote heresy. but shia is different. its not islam. i have my own opinion and point, but i dont to waste it here. i used to stay with 2 different iranian housemates in the past, and i know them firsthand. SHIA IS NOT ISLAM and its dangerous to islam, so, its a good thing for enemies, like you guys; chinese scum. a non gratefull creature who scattered around the world, creating mess and pollute everything. i understand the relation but its not good for us, not good for malaysia, im sorry.

hello, all muslims in the world are subjected to sensitivity issues. its no surprise. remember the 'prophet's cartoon issue', and many other things. maybe it'll take time for them muslim to grow strong, and neglect those humiliation (caused by islam's enemy) like the jewish are doing now. i dont blame the elites and you, everyone will hate something, be it a casual or have certain agenda. i blame the muslim for the any outrage reaction, i wish they will be calm, like jews now. so, malaysia is no exception. the different is, this is our land. and we have the right to enforce and keep islam like the way it is, and we have power to do that in our own country. if you dont like islam, if you dont like malay, stay wherever you are now, yes, singapore is the best place. just dont come to malaysia

Syahmi Majesty said...

"You have your own opinion of Shia. Anyway Shia has more guts than Sunni today. They got balls to stand up against USA and Israel."

-its still very early for the april fool bro. do you actually have any clue of what you're talking about? put it this way, shia comes from them, (usa, israel) it's up to them to play 'wayang' like they want to. do you know that majority of iranian people hate their leaders so much? what you seen on tv is only a distorted image of something else. aggressive, and brave, whatever. these wayang only can fool people like you, and some in the west. iranian people, to be honest, hate islam and eveything about it, since forever. they had their own religion (they worshiped some 'holy fire' before). they hate arabs, they hate islam. it destroyed their faith, their pride, their culture. this came from the mouth of iranian people themselves TO ME. so thus your shia is born. can you relate something now?

Syahmi Majesty said...
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Syahmi Majesty said...

talk about chinese scum.. ok let me put this issue in different perspective - you are muslim. you love your religion so much. but you plan to migrate to israel. you arrived in israel, you see something, you hate jewish, you hate their guts. you want the government to change something about it to suite your way of life, and you cant stop complaining about it, even the government give you job, house, and nationality. you just cant stop complain about their religion..even you're free to leave israel and go somewhere else you like..

that's the kind of wtf issue and problem with chinese we have to deal here... sad but true

Veritas said...

You got so many hate for Chinese who did nothing to harm malay?

So many hate for Shia?

In fact muslim all over the world other than Malay like Chinese, don believe you go ask Pakistan. Chinese help muslim a lot.

You hater?

Veritas said...

Wait a minute. I tot USA wanted to attack Iran and Syria, both Shia? I thought Shia Hezbollah defeated Israel?

Meanwhile Sunni Saudi lick up USA?

Veritas said...

let me tell you, sect is different. hanafi, hambali,shafie, maliki are sects. they are the versions of the leader or the imam. and they dont contradict each other

I tot Hanafi woman can sit in Sharia court?

Veritas said...

talk about chinese scum.. ok let me put this issue in different perspective - you are muslim. you love your religion so much. but you plan to migrate to israel. you arrived in israel, you see something, you hate jewish, you hate their guts. you want the government to change something about it to suite your way of life, and you cant stop complaining about it, even the government give you job, house, and nationality. you just cant stop complain about their religion..even you're free to leave israel and go somewhere else you like..

that's the kind of wtf issue and problem with chinese we have to deal here... sad but true


Elsewhere in Thailand, white man land, no want has Chinese problem. Strange, Malaysia has.

And I tot Malay Iban has a "Iban Bible problem" as well? So is "Iban scum"?

Syahmi Majesty said...

im not a hater. i just want to live peacefully, heck my ex-gf is a chinese girl. i also have some chinese blood in me (but not from the southern chinese migration theory). i told you, i dont blame the past because what matters is now. so, as i see it, malaysia will be ok if none of the extremist like you keep stiring sensitive issue. i also dont tolerate malay, or any mat rempit who try to destroy our peace. we have our own way. everyone ought to respect it if they want to live here. not much you can do really. nevertheless, its just for everyone's good. we dont question others issues and beliefs, malay people are so laid back, we dont want any trouble. we're so laid back till we're loosing our land. but thats our problem. we acknowledge it, so its up to us to rectify it since THIS IS OUR LAND. i think its the same everywhere. you cant blame your gov for blocking porn in your internet cause its their right. i just dont get why the chinese are complaining so much, like everywhere.

"You got so many hate for Chinese who did nothing to harm malay?"

- so yeah, no. i dont hate anyone. im not racist. but i will hate anyone who is sick the head or retard who think they know the best for everyone. well, harming can also be done by verbal attack, by firing sensitive issue intentionally. as i observed, you are quite a racist. you hate malay, indians, and whatnot, but you think you're being fair. and out of all, i dont care what other people think or say, its their rights, haters are gonna hate. my country is not perfect, even if it's perfect, there'll be someone who's gonna hate. and its my right to give my opinion or explanation, maybe it'll help to clear something in some curious heads out there including you.

regarding shia, well, i have many friends who are shia, i dont hate them. i feel pity for them. i just want them to know and realize what was actually going on. if you believe in god, you want to be honest to yourself, its only you who know what you're actually believing. if you say you believe in islam, or any other religion, and you know the way religions work; they have rules of how to pray, and what to believe. if suddenly this shia comes and change everything including insulting all the prophet's apostles, i think that's twisted. why dont they change the name of the religion also? dont call islam, call something else. maybe can call 'new age zorroasterism' or whatever. the way i see it, they have this hatred towards arabs and islam since the islamic invasion. so, with help of islam's enemies, they planned to destroy islam from within. i believe in islam, and i must defend my faith. this is what people like you dont get it. if islam is a country, would i let anyone to come and destroy it? i dont think u also would let that happeen to yours.

you must understand. religion and nation are two different things. people are not religion. people are just people. if usa want to attack iran, its because of the iranian gov. dont you know that iranian people hated ahmadneejad? he's not even a persian to begin with! this guy, also tattered the image of islam in the world's eye. do you know how the way they pray in iran? they worship the leaders before god! that is what you call islam? this came from the mouth of iranians to me. do you think i want that to happen in malaysia? im glad our gov can be strict about this. yes, we dont welcome shia in malaysia. not shia people, but anything that will be a sprout to that twisted cult. if you want to go deeper, i tell you, usa and israel will NEVER atack iran. syria is different, syria is arab. iran is persian. you can do your own research. and yes, we lost saudi a long ago. saudi is always part of usa.

Veritas said...

you must understand. religion and nation are two different things. people are not religion. people are just people. if usa want to attack iran, its because of the iranian gov. dont you know that iranian people hated ahmadneejad? he's not even a persian to begin with! this guy, also tattered the image of islam in the world's eye. do you know how the way they pray in iran? they worship the leaders before god! that is what you call islam? this came from the mouth of iranians to me. do you think i want that to happen in malaysia? im glad our gov can be strict about this. yes, we dont welcome shia in malaysia. not shia people, but anything that will be a sprout to that twisted cult. if you want to go deeper, i tell you, usa and israel will NEVER atack iran. syria is different, syria is arab. iran is persian. you can do your own research. and yes, we lost saudi a long ago. saudi is always part of usa.

Every minorities in malaysia got problem with Malay Muslim. Do some soul searching first.

Read more and then you can preach to the whole world how much China done for Muslim world. Mahathir and UMNO is more well aware of this and they repay China by not ganging up with Philippines and Vietnam on spratley issues.

I knew Islamic history better than 99% of Malay Muslim. I am humble to say that because else I will say 99.9%.

FYI, Shia was imposed on Persian by Azerbaijani, and the Iranian elites are fake Persian. Most are Azerbaijani.

And I give you one more lesson, Saudi, Qatar want attack Syria most, not USA and Israel.

Veritas said...

im not a hater. i just want to live peacefully, heck my ex-gf is a chinese girl. i also have some chinese blood

This is the different between you and Chinese. If I have had a Malay girlfriend, I would not hate Malay AT ALL. I would love Malay and think about the orgasm and ecstasy the malay girl give me. I would remember her moan...etc.

Chinese will not allow ourselves to sink to such low level. We remember the love given to us.

Syahmi Majesty said...

hahaha you're actually a funny guy. so i think you should have one malay gf just to make you not hating malay. thats easy. ok, i had chinese gf, iban gf, malay gf, caucasions, eastern europe, kazakh, i knew one arab girl but never slept with her, what else? i knew few iranians here, but now im with malay gf so its not gonna happen.

you see the thing is, i mix with all kind of people, i dont discriminate, actually, i couldnt care less. i have my own problems. but you cant escape reality. it'll smack you right onto your face, eventually. just because i have chinese blood doesnt mean i cant say bad thing about chinese, just because i have malay blood, doesnt mean that i cant say bad thing about them. if you ask me what is the problem in malaysia, i tell you from what i've seen. i dont feel any more superior than anyone, any race, EXCEPT anyone who is a possible threat. my fellow malay anwar ibrahim, i dont like him. i can say countless bad thing about him, so thats the point. malay, chinese, indian, iban, jakun, if they make trouble, they should be punished. it's that simple to me. if you angry just because i said bad things about chinese? SO BE IT.

arab will fight each other no matter what you tell them. an arab himself told me they have unsolved problem in their region, the problem will never solved, you know why? he told me just because they're arabs! its that simple. so who am i to give a fying care about it? can i change anything?

so, in my country, my beloved country, i love the way it is. it should be better, i know, but i understand what are the things that could rip that away, torn it to a broken dream. i dont want that happen. so yeah, please. you can say whatever you want. i will keep saying mine :)

Veritas said...

Don use scum on Chinese. Today Penang run by Chinese is the only state which solve malay poverty problem.

Your bumi state screw you big time. Chinese take care of you guys. FYI, I never screw girl in my whole life. I am more moral than you.

You need learn virtue from me.

Syahmi Majesty said...

whatever. look, nobody's perfect. i'm far from it. but as a malaysian citizen, i know my rights and my problems, in my country. the question is; who are you?

Veritas said...

I am religious Christian. While fanatics focus on inflicting pain and accuse people of discrimination, my focus is different. I focus on personal virtue. Because I not perfect, so i think evil a little, masturbate sometimes...etc. The heavenly father will look and I hope he say "I forgive your weakness".

No one is perfect. One thing I would like to preach is don do evil.

Syahmi Majesty said...

""If I have had a Malay girlfriend, I would not hate Malay AT ALL. I would love Malay and think about the orgasm and ecstasy the malay girl give me. I would remember her moan...etc.

Chinese will not allow ourselves to sink to such low level. We remember the love given to us""

-that's quite horny from a virtue person and full of morals like you.. porn dvd much?

Veritas said...

Screwing a girl is bigger sin. I still remember my parents told me, do not anyhow screw girl.

You screw a virgin girl, next time she married, her husband sure despise her.

You screw non virgin girl, you are actually destroying her soul. A girl look spent once she sleep with many man. Somehow you could tell that.

Syahmi Majesty said...

look, are you kidding me? you're the one who has mental problem and go internet disguised as as girl, seeking attention as a typical chinese racist. who has bigger problem now? what i did is try to tell you what the hell is wrong in my country, since you take it as your biggest problem in your life. you think you're free to bash everyone, but what happens if someone bashing you? are you mental sir?

Veritas said...

If you speak the truth about Chinese, I admit. There are wickedness in our culture as well.

Veritas said...

Please bash Chinese on our wickedness so that we will improve. I give you a hint.

1) Chinese like to stooge
2) no sense of justice
3) like $$
4) like bully subordinate
5) some have a lot of sexual pervertness especially mainland Chinese
5) selfish
6) like bully poor people

All these are true. Unfortunately racism is not our forte.

Syahmi Majesty said...

truthfully, i dont have time and interest for now in discussing your guys problems. you can form study group for that matter. maybe it'll improve peace in this region. so me, you, my family, friends, we all can improve our lives. take care bro, good luck

Veritas said...

Yes, I agree. If you read all my writings, I have stated that Malay were non racist before 1940. After 1940, its different, but I have some empathy of why Malay behave in certain ways.

Syahmi Majesty said...

to make it easier for you, i put it in the bigger picture. so many unfortunate events happened to us, until we've become malaysia as it is now. worst thing is maybe because of the colonization. we cant help it,some of the malay scum fell to the traps and we lost our country. what can i do about it? it happened. but at least i can be aware now, we all can be aware. the best thing for us is to try avoid any similarities of occurrence in the future. that's why we have laws, etc.

you just dont get it right?. i tell you this; racist people will tend to impose their racist believe to other people so that they feel like they're doing the right thing. what are you talking about? malay are not racist. at least not me. if it's necessary, i will hate everyone equally. now that's the mega racism if it could please you. i dont take it to the heart if someone call me racist, but now i explain to you the situation here. dont just depend on online research, they're crap out here. for example like this blog of yours. some maybe can be accepted, but something like this, is very dangerous and misinformative. i suggest you stay out of something that's not within your reach. if you dont live in malaysia, its quite hard for you to grasp of what's happening here. you wont even have the clue if you dont step out of your door, try to meet people, deal with the environments, reduce your time doing "research" online. i told you, lots of crap..

there is a difference between racism and patriotism, or simply a nationalism. minus the racism, what's wrong with the rest? none. if you familiar with our history, its stated that during islamic empires, this region is at its golden time. do you understand that? its the best time of 'nusantara', or simply a malay civilization. we didnt have problem like now, for example, a racist like you. we lived co-existing each other with lots of other nations (at one time, malacca is said to have more than 50 language spoken at once). so? we also had a very strong relationship with china, be it muslim/non muslim kings. or rulers, of the great empires of china. it all started from colonization. we had been attacked before though, but we were strong. corruption and tomfoolery amongst our malay rulers had brought us down to it. so we lost our land.

to cut my story short, in malaysia, we have enough problems. we just want to live normal, as for malay, its in their birthright to defend their land. just like old times. and that 'after 1940' thing that bothers you, well, after independence, maybe we've developed and reach some level of patriotism. not a big deal. but, like i said, if anything smells threat, we have the right to destroy it.

right?

Veritas said...

I have said that I am sympathetic to many of the malay situation. You can only see the full picture if you can understand the watershed of before 1940 and after 1940.

The Malay used to be able to assimilate Chinese. Malacca sultanate has 20-30% peranakan and before 1940, there was no anti Chinese riot.

Things change, and why? I will provide further answers in my blog. And sadly few Malay actually understand Malay history well.

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Syahmi Majesty said...

oh, so what you're going to do now? please, we've had enough. no more strange theory or same old thing that would repeat the cycle. everyone knows what happened, you can ask around. we prefer to make it taboo, as nothing good will come out of it. it maybe matters, it maybe not. either way, it will waste everybody's time. like i said, we figured it out already, thats why we have constitution and all.

so you see, malay are not racist. i dont mind if they're racist but obviously they're not. you can go to moscow and see how they'll welcome you.

if you plan to write something hateful, you already know it in your heart. as for me, i dont mind. but i dont know how will my fellow malay react to something negative again, towards them. people not the same you know, i pray to god that my fellow malay or islam will ignore this kind of things, you know, the fire will die anyway, without being fueled. in my right mind, i am very tired to discuss anything that has to do with this stupid racial nitpicking, pointing fingers, like it would change anything. even if it could change something, dont you think everyone else in this planet besides you wont feel the need to 'change history'? what do you want to be? god? if its not enough, it'll never be enough. what about enough is enough?

Veritas said...

You go USA, Europe and SG, no bumi policy.

Syahmi Majesty said...

so? is that troubling you? you can go to usa, german or whatever if you like. nobody is stopping you. i dont need to go anywhere. i dont care if i dont get citizenship or discriminated against bumi or whatever in usa. this is my home. i am a malaysian citizen. what to do? this is my country, everyone agreed (except maybe chinese) bro, wake-up, this is the real world. malaysia is a multicultural with islam as the oficial religion, and we have bumiputera policy. if you feel like home, go to australia. or singapore. its that simple

Syahmi Majesty said...

* if you dont feel like home.

Veritas said...

So fact is western europe, USA, SG less racist than malaysia. USA SG and many places of europe is multi-racial, yet they don have bumiputra-ism.

Syahmi Majesty said...

i always right about the 'chinese scum' theory. these are ungrateful people whom scattered thru the face of earth, trying to cause problem, just because THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE. its so pity in fact, i feel ashame when i think of the blood in my body. well, my malay blood also sometimes make me shy away, but this, this chinese problem. it wont stop. what would you do with these chinese...

i dont understand, china is big, yet they still have exiles all around the globe. i dont blame what had happened in the past, same as i wont regret that this chinese blood in me is something that what has become ME. but, as i said, we can stop something bad in the future, as we learn and applying history lessons in our lives. why dont these chinese learn...

Veritas said...

I tot everyone got not problem with Chinese migrant other than malaysia? BTW, a lot of country has so call "islamophobia".

Syahmi Majesty said...

btw, please stop saying SG is less racist than malaysia just because they dont declare their own bumiputra-ism whatsoever to the world. everyone knows that malay and india are being pathetically discriminated by chinese rulers in SG. please, dont make us laugh..

if you want to say something good about your country that is better than malaysia, maybe you could promote your achievements like no chewing gum in singapore. or you'll go to jail. we, malaysian, are so respectful of your country in that sense. thats why your country is clean, compared us,. thats all..

Veritas said...

At least no one monopolize the word "Allah".

Syahmi Majesty said...

oh really? tell me something new. please enlighten me. u know what? you're dreaming. chinese will never be a majority whatsoever in the most part of the world, except your country and your grandfather country. its not that easy. black has taken almost 500 years to be a president in us, so u chinese have a long way to go. good luck though, but it would take longer in malaysia because we already know your dirty trick. think about that

Veritas said...

We remain comfortable as minority in many places.

Syahmi Majesty said...

od! im surprised!!!! NOT. so, stop whining about being minority. bumiputra this, bumiputra that, everyone is tired lorrrr...

Veritas said...

Malay muslim are not good minorities in pattani, yala, and Narathiwat in South Thailand.

Thai love Chinese.

Syahmi Majesty said...

great. goodluck with that. by the time you stopped dreaming, is when you rrealize you are living in the pavement of your own so-called country. let your gov take everything from you. even your grandfather's country mainland china also dont want you back.

see you in thailand :)

Veritas said...

Many Singaporeans retire in Thailand. I want go there too. No one will shout Chinese scum.

Syahmi Majesty said...

ww, im touched. i wish you the best of luck, MY ADVICE;

if ever anyone calls you a chinese scum, dont feel bad. there's a lot more in this world than being worried about being called a scum. people are being called things. no big deal. it not necessarily a bad thing. just swallow and move on..

Veritas said...

There is no such thing as Chinese scum. In reality, every minorities hate Malay muslim in malaysia.

Malay Iban hate Malay Muslim.

Syahmi Majesty said...

so what? malay muslim scum? so be it? that make you happy or not?

Veritas said...

Cool down. We discuss base on fact.

Syahmi Majesty said...

whatever floats your boat dude. the truth is, chinese or other minorities in malaysia, including me, we have the ooprtunity to enjoy a nice and good retirement in our home, malaysia no matter what you or other people think of us. malaysia, malay muslim, malay whatever that you like to call it.. cant blame me though, its just the way it is.. good night..

Veritas said...

Do not make Malaysia Malay muslim a bit less racist though.

Syahmi Majesty said...

you bored me to death. u have a long way to go, to even chat innocently with someone on the internet. learn kid.. enjoy life, dont commit suicide later.

Syahmi Majesty said...

stop being a girl. change your stupid identity/ profile pic. face people like a man. walk the talk. there's a lot more in this world. trust me

Veritas said...

You too.