Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Blond people in China Part 1: Uyghur

Turkic People

See Part 1 here
See Part 2 here
See Part 3 here
See Part 4 here


Uyghur

Turkestan, click map to enlarge

The title is a little misnomer. This series of writings will discuss about blond race in China and these people often live beyond the border of China as well.

Most Uyghur have a look bias towards mongoloid. Most of them are Muslim , and they live in China Xinjiang province. A small number of them have blond hair and blue eyes.

Uyghur language belongs Turkic language family, an entirely different language from Sino-Tibetan spoken by the majority Han Chinese. The Turkic language continuum spans from China Xinjiang to Turkey Istanbul.

The language divergence from Xinjiang to Istanbul could be less than Mandarin and Fujian (Min Nan). Uyghur is mutually intelligible with Uzbek, and in fact should be regarded as one language. The Uyghur/Uzbek language spans from Yumen in China to around the Shumanay area in Uzbekistan. That is a span of around 3000 km.

Various sources claim that Uyghur can pick up Turkish within a couple of months of immersion in Turkish language environment. The Turkic people claim that a Turk can traverse from China to Istanbul using without any language difficulties is a wild exaggeration but its not entirely baseless. Below display the cardinal numbering spoken in Turkish and Uyghur.

Number Turkish Uighur
1 bir bir
2 iki ekki
3 üç uch 
4 dört tot 
5 beş  besh 
6 altı   alti 
7 yedi  yeti 
8 sekiz seggiz 
9 dokuz togguz 
10 on   on 

Most Uyghur look more mongoloid with a distinct central Asian feature. 


Uyghur boy with blue eyes


Blond Uyghur girl


Blond Uyghur girl


Blond Uyghur adult girl and they are very caucasoid looking


A Uyghur girl of mix caucasoid and Mongoloid phenotype. She is extremely beautiful.

Beautiful Uyghur girls. A large proportion of Uyghur girl look quite Mongoloid
The two Uyghur girls have a 50-50 caucasoid and Mongoloid look


Gulnazar, a Uyghur model. She have a mongoloid look with caucasoid feature such as sharp nose.  


Gulnazar

Gulnazar

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this sharing.

I'v found your postings on such "root-cultural-geographical" research very enlightening. It gives me perspective to who i am and about our human race.

In the Singapore that we are today. Things have gotten to such extend that the awakened ones can feel breathless and trapped. It is good to start looking at the bigger picture. Somehow, it helps me to take a step back from time to time.

Veritas said...

Singaporean young people should go backpack in conflict zone. It makes you think outside box and make you impenetrable to lies of MSM.

oldhorse42 said...

I have been to xinjiang recently and I can understand the anger the uyghurs people have against the Han race. My tour guide Abdul who spoke very good English is one example. He felt that his people has been marginalised and the resources of the land exploited.I do not always agree with him. All along the way I saw uyghur children begging on the road side. Why don,t the parents send them to schools? Education is free for uyghurs up to University level.

Veritas said...

The Uyghur splash a bucket of water on me in Kargilik.

Actually there is a phenomenon around the world of lower cognitive performance among Sunni Islam adherent, among the major civilizations, if you exclude low caste Indians and African. Some (not all) of the Turks are exception.

The Shia especially Iranians diaspora are acing academically in Germany and USA, but their performance are so-so in Canda.

The Arab Christians are not performing badly and they very intgrated in USA and Europe, until the point you do not know they are Arab. (Shows how integrated they are)

In France, government pay people to study. In 2005, Sunni Arab Islam adherent cried France "discriminate them" so they are unemployed and under-educated. They riot and burn car.

The Shia, Arab Christians and Yellow people all stay away from the riot. They are successful under the French system.

If you look at the Vietnamese in Germany, they are not self selected people. They arrive as the lowest class people working in factory. They are uneducated and not the cognitive elites. Their 2nd generation ace in Germany's exam and school system. They are now prospering like nobody and even if there is discrimination in Germany, the vietnamese are grateful to the generous German system that save them from their home turf Vietnam.

And European are wondering what happen to Sunni Arab/Turk/kurd communities and is their cognitive ability got something to do with their culture.

Veritas said...

One place I agree discriminations against all form of meritocracy and 99% of the time, there is no way for smart people to ascend is India.

If you say high caste Indians are MOFOS racist and you stand no chance, I agree both hands.

In Malaysia, the institutional discrimination is quite bad, but minorities stand some chance.

In places like Western Europe and USA, even there is discrimination, your cognitive ability will bring you a long way.

Veritas said...

But I support be more intervention and positive affirmation for Uyghur.

Imagine a Uyghur trying out smart Han Chinese in exam. It is not very easy. Han Chinese is No 1 expert in the whole world in taking exam, probably just behind Ashkenazi Jews.

Anonymous said...

Many many years ago, Alexandra the Great has managed to conquer almost half of asia. Some of his troops and offsprings most likely settled in asia. Thats the reason why asia is so diversified and so interesting. Most chinese, like the Jews, have mixed blood in them so they are smarter and have less genes disorder.

Veritas said...

I beg to differ. Thousands of years before Alexander, there are already many white skin Aryans in Asia.

Persian are Aryan, high caste Indians are Aryans. The earlier Persian and high caste Indians could be very white with blue eyes, but got darker and darker due to mixture with local.

In Xinjiang there is Aryan many thousand years. Today there are still Aryan in Xinjiang. Probably you find Aryan in N China as well previously, but they got mix with Mongoloid N Chinese.

Anonymous said...

Veritas is lesbian??? or bisexual??? to each its own, i just point it out, because she claims to be christian yet homosexuality is not ok to the bible

Anonymous said...

anon 10.16

your boss is a gay ?? his sister is lesbian ?? why don't you go find out instead of come here to do personal attack.

Anonymous said...

what? ok, maybe i exaggerated, but Veritas in her examples of Uyghur beauties, talked only about female beauty, so i though she was maybe lesbian or something, and that is a contradiction from being a christian, but i apologieze if someone saw my message as offensive

Anonymous said...

Deception, Pressure, and Threats: The Transfer of Young Uyghur Women to Eastern China


Targets marriage-aged women between the ages of 16 to 25.
Intimidates the women and their families to compel them to participate in the program.
Threatens local leaders who do not comply with the policy with removal from their posts.
Places the young women into inhumane work conditions and with employers that do not honor work contracts.

At the same time that the PRC government implements the transfer policy in the name of providing economic opportunities for these young women, it also provides support for the movement of large numbers of Han Chinese migrants into East Turkestan.


http://uyghurstudies.org/en/?p=122

Veritas said...

Targets marriage-aged women between the ages of 16 to 25.
Intimidates the women and their families to compel them to participate in the program.
Threatens local leaders who do not comply with the policy with removal from their posts.
Places the young women into inhumane work conditions and with employers that do not honor work contracts.

At the same time that the PRC government implements the transfer policy in the name of providing economic opportunities for these young women,



Not true.


it also provides support for the movement of large numbers of Han Chinese migrants into East Turkestan.


True.

Anonymous said...

The Uyghur are a different (and better looking) race than the Han Chinese.

They should have their own independent country!

Veritas said...

The Uyghur are a different (and better looking) race than the Han Chinese.

They should have their own independent country!


I am sympathetic to auto-determination. But there are immense practical problem. No centralize country would allow seceding as it would almost equal to death of federation and would lead to immense civil war, not only in Uyghurland but elsewhere.

Can Malaysia allow Borneo to secede, and what about USA letting the conferation to secede in Lincoln's time.

And Saudi let Shia to secede? Shia land in Saudi hold at least 80% of kingdom oil.

And will India let Kashmir, Punjab, Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura—and the Himalayan state of Sikkim secede since everyone of them hates India so much and ever worse atrocities in commited by Indian Army there?

If Uyghurland seceded, what they will get just 70% of land, the rest belongs to Tartar, Kazakh, Kyrgiz, Tajik, Mongols...etc. Will they reciprocally allow their minorities to secede?

This is big problem. I am sympathetic to Uyghur demand. I think the best way forward is to have a federated state. From there Chinese should work and see if she can come out even better idea.

Anonymous said...

Chinese act like Hitler - kill innocent Uyghur people. Also kill innocent Tibet people.

China threat to world peace. So good that the world encircle this bad country.

In East, protection from Japan plus USA troops
Also in East, South Korea plus USA troops.
South East have protection from Vietnamese.

In South, brave Australia and US troops and bases.

In South West, India, who conduct more naval exercises with USA than any country.

If Uyghurs have country, the complete circle to contain China and protect free world.

Veritas said...

Chinese act like Hitler - kill innocent Uyghur people. Also kill innocent Tibet people.

China threat to world peace. So good that the world encircle this bad country.

In East, protection from Japan plus USA troops
Also in East, South Korea plus USA troops.
South East have protection from Vietnamese.

In South, brave Australia and US troops and bases.

In South West, India, who conduct more naval exercises with USA than any country.

If Uyghurs have country, the complete circle to contain China and protect free world


In Mao's time China is no good. Not now.

Please cool down a little, else discussion cannot go on.

Veritas said...

In East, protection from Japan plus USA troops

To counter one of your point.

If Japan re-militarize, the great victim is not China, but most likely USA and Russia.

Today, you look at Japan movie about WW2, it did not preach any hate towards China, but towards white man. ww2 is glorified as a just war to liberate yellow against white man.

And Japanese elites still remember that USA give her 2 atom bomb.

The problem with Japan now is that she is under control of USA. USA take down all pro-China elites, like hatoyama. If Japan is able to break free from USA (within 100 years it will go back to sino-sphere), its natural tendency is to ally with China.

Veritas said...

Chinese act like Hitler - kill innocent Uyghur people. Also kill innocent Tibet people.


Regarding the atrocities against minority, India is No 1 in the whole world. I think Saudi is bad if you are Shia.

China has not reach the standards of Western Europe but I think its improving. Even in Western Europe, Sunni (not Shia) will always say people discriminate them. White in Sunni land, they are one of the harshest against minority.

I would say in Xinjiang, mostly is Uighur attacking unarmed Han Chinese.

Anonymous said...

many chinese want to look like Uyghurs but are unlucky in life

Anonymous said...

Uyghurs and Tibetans hate the Han
But Kashmiri Hindus (40%) love the indians and even moderate kashmiris muslims dont want independence anymore ( given the state of pakistan)

CCCP always trying to kill and eradicate cultures and people more interesting than their own dour boring Han culture.

At the moment CCCP are the biggest genocidists of people - inlcuding d0gs cats etc

China's people need to be re-educated- people who give the world SARS and now bird flu

Anonymous said...

China threat to world peace. So good that the world encircle this bad country.

Please define what is a 'good' country and what is a 'bad' country.

Anonymous said...

They should be called Mestizos, the mixture of two races. There are many examples, like Mexicans, or other latin american mixtures of caucasian with amerindian.

Anonymous said...

Blond ??? these are very played out photos, more like, once AGAIN, Muslim Propaganda. You claim your better then the "white" enemies taking over your country and killing your people and yet try to be them?

sunlight and more nutrition changes your hair color don't mean its genetic and they use henna in Asia.

Say what ever to make yourselves feel better about your fugly selves that was passed down by your uneducated kind. You find the same pictures twist it to the way you want to hear it so you can get a similar pathetic person of your kind to agree, all that history is wrong you have to be educated in history continuously, one "white" person that came on your land or caucasian mummies from centuries ago don't mean it birthed your people

Anonymous said...

Why Mongolia is not Turkic People?

NobleSpirit said...

The terrorist Country China often make up the stories to demonize any group. Event at the expense of slaughtering ordinary Chinese citizen. We just seen one recently indeed brutal one. Highly trained PLA Special Forces members Slaughtered innocent chinese citizen in Kunming just to frame Uighurs and justify the genocide against them. Daily 2000-3000 uyghurs usually between 4yrs to 16 years old being executed and their organs being sold for high price, Even ends up in Singapore's expensive hospitals. Many asian celebrities pay huge amount of money for human collagen extracted from uyghur kids. Plenty of organs from executed uyguurs being transplanted to rich customer.

Uighur Lands were filled with culture and civilization, To take advantage of islamophobia china frame uighurs as islamic people. Originally Uighurs are believers of Tengrism like the original Finno-Ugric people. Also Buddhism, Taoism and Of course christianity survived with perfect tolerance and coexistence until Their lands invaded by Chinese muslim warlords and bandits, Uighurs forced to convert syariah style islam, Since there were great resistance, Chinese muslims performed massive genocides and rape against uighurs, thousands of Uighur bibles burned alongside with ancient Uighur books.

Uighurs never been accepted as muslims by muslim world, You can see that proof by seeing the reactions of muslim world for the genocide against Uighurs, Ma Bufang the chinese muslim general who initiated wide scale genocides against uighurs, tibetans and other non muslim minorities had great praise from saudi arabia and pakistan for “purging kaffirs”.

In the other hand China is number one weapon supplier of conflict zones and terrorist organizations. Also prominent terrorist organizations have alliance with china inluding Taliban, Hizbollah, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, NPA (Hakbong Bayan), Maoist Terrorists in India, Nepal, Bhutan, Cambodia.

Unknown said...

Not sure if you know, there is a small Uyghur community in Singapore. Most of them are working professionals and some of them are housewives. =)

Anonymous said...

Most of those pics have only Caucasoid blood.


If they are truly mixed with Mongoloid you can see it in their small slitty eyes.
Mongoloid Caucasoid combination the worst looking in the world

Because

High Narrow Nose + Big Luscious Eyes = Caucasoid = Beautiful
Opp = Opp + Opp

Anonymous said...

Yes correct:

Caucasoid Face= 3 Dimensional Face = The Most Beautiful, the Most Evovled face

Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as race. We're all the same people.

Wow - so many racist rants, anti-Sinic rants. Anti-sinicism has no place in any society.
This is uncalled for and stupid.

The Uyghur are some of the nicest people I ever met. They don't expressed the racist anti-sinicism that you see on this comment page.

I do hope they are not marginalized like the Native Americans or the Maori people


Unknown said...

The Hungarians are the closest relatives of Uyghurs!

Anonymous said...

Veritas can you keep Africans out of your dirty idiotic mouth. Africa is the mother of all. You're a bad genetic mutation. Go ahead with yourself grandeur wannabe, your fake caucasity is showing. Merde